Went out off Bowmanville the last 2 weekends Had a ball with the stagers. 11 | SMF. All of the fish on riggers 80ft over 150 fow. Been up fishing kawarthas with my bro and his son. . Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » South Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) Normal Topic Hot Topic (More than 15 replies). COM is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program and other similar affiliate advertising programs which are designed to provide a means. If you can find a 24ft'r, go for it, great boat. on April 01, 2023, 10:53:53 am. Fishhawk 840, probe, transducer and all necessary wiring. Buds Divers - Anyone Every Tried Them? « on: April 18, 2021, 08:28:24 pm ». Second, around 10 pounds, hit a green silver Michigan Stinger down 40 off the rigger in. To check your downrigger counters, drop your ball straight below the boat while sitting still. Lost quite a few and many missed hits. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » 100+ Luhr Jensen Shoehorn Trolling Spoons. As most salmon trollers spool at least one rod with 300 feet of copper and/or 10 colors of leadcore, let’s look at those numbers first: • 300 feet of 32-pound copper runs at 49 feet. Posts: 10. Trolled west zigzagging between 90 and 105 FOW. 1 kB, 4032x3024 - viewed 20 times. I was thinking how many member would put a really cool Spoonpullers. Haven't seen any reports lately. The Weekender is a little wet when the waves get to about three footers. Worm harness definitely out fished anything and close to bottom. Its on sale for what seems like a great price. Asking 450. ?If you need more spaces, print the other side? Tom B. The probe battery last forever. 5 mph. Started by John Whyte. Lucky strike salmon or trout net. 3L MERCRUISER, LARGE AREATED BAIT WELL, FULL GALLEY, PRESSURE WATER, PORTI-POTTY, SLEEPS TWO COMFORTABLY, LOTS OF STORAGE, RARE BIG LUND BUILT FOR THE GREAT LAKES, SUPER DEEP VEE, GOOD IN ROUGH WATER,. 4585 Views. 1977 26' CAMPION TOBA FOR SALE. For Sale: Fish Hawk X4D speed , temp, depth system. « Reply #5 on: August 17, 2015, 10:04:52 pm ». . HP is horsepower, LBS is weight in pounds. s. No surface speed indicator though. Dedicated board for tournament results and archive information. i have 5 walleye in the boat over 14lbs, and none were even caught. Any Action. slightly increase boat speed adds more snap. Find near by Bait & Tackle and Accommodations. The temperature climbs up through a series of jumps. We fished in waters from 80' to 250', from south to north, east to west and reversed. The marina is surrounded by acres of parkland and trails, and close to beaches, restaurants and attractions. « Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 10:35:11 am ». Okuma 45 size reel has a capacity of 580 yards of 20lb test mono line. Asking $60 for the lot, located in Bowmanville, will ship at extra cost. Cannon Mag 20 help! « Reply #1 on: June 25, 2007, 12:03:00 pm ». The boat's been serviced & ready for the water. Lots of boats out. So decided to leave it alone for now. 2 Scotty electric downriggers model 1116 comes with dual rod holders, swivel bases, mounting plates, 2 new 15lb cannonballs with Scotty releases $1100. $325. Okuma 30 size reel has a capacity of 420 yards of 20lb test mono line. Had a blast with RJAGSP. Re: Cannon vs Scotty downriggers. Big Jon Long Arm DownRigger. 17978 Views. Re: Motor Propeller Selection - Help please. ). Located in Hamilton, near Fisherman’s Pier. It is intermittent. 233 Merc outdrive with a 351 Ford motor. absolutely! 8 lb bow came on that set up on Friday evening. Logged. Week with RJAGSP. Most fish were on the slider lines off the riggers. mirrorcraft 14 aluminum, 9. 10642 Views. Have had no trouble with the boat whatsoever. Logged. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Spring Salmon and Browns. Have caught multiple fish on the same strip and on multiple outings. The leads from the sensor crimp to the inside wire and the cable strands. for the pair. Lunch and Parking are free for 2016. Haven't been out for salmon in over a month. 24 Pounder; Posts: 171; Gender: Planerboard mast mount « on: June 07, 2019, 06:17:58 pm » I have a Big Jon. I think they are set apart from the rest due to the holes . « Reply #6 on: March 29, 2008, 06:45:00 pm ». . jpg (4495. On another reg. There is no better way to spend an. 00 TOTWC Rating - 10; Port Dalhousie 1 Brimley Rd. IMG_6469. They also have little anodes you can put on the split rings on your spoons. Big Jon's have been around for a long time, I had them and they worked ok, the older ones that I had didn't run well off the side of the boat, wire would bunch up on one side of the spool and trip the breaker. Sold!! 20230609_125159. « Reply #4 on: June 02, 2021, 10:50:00 am ». 42lber here is a shot of a double and the 1st over 30 in the limestone. ( used ) Excalibur scope and carry bag. Anyone fishing out of Cobourg ? Heading there 26th of June. Went 4 for 6. 00 or best offer. Similar boats are Stripers, Boston Whalers, Bayliner Trophy's. The engine uses less gas, not too much more than my 9. 9 Honda and trailer for sale. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Coho Night « previous next. If you really want to catch fish, do some research and locate the aquaculture pens along the north shore of Manitoulin. Re: Walker temp sense cable. For Sale Fish Hawk X4D. Re: What's the deal with "Nasty Boy" spoons? They are great spoons. 4 Replies. Using 3/4 - 1 oz. Landed 10 in 5 hours last weekend and 6 more the past Saturday. Started by Frank kempf. First was about 4 pounds hit a NK28 Green Thunder behind a black dipsey out 180 feet on wire in 250 FOW. The truth of the matter is. 17 kB, 4608x3456 - viewed 256 times. Sep 13, 2023Nov 13, 2023Nov 10, 2023Normal Topic Hot Topic (More than 15 replies) Very Hot Topic (More than 25 replies) Locked Topic Sticky Topic PollSpoonpullers. Spoonpullers » Port of Call, The Captain and crew » A Place to Introduce Yourself (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) Normal Topic Hot Topic (More than 15 replies) Very Hot Topic (More than 25 replies) Locked Topic Sticky Topic Poll SMF 2. This is an excellent big water boat, very deep hull, excellent for lake Ontario. Spoonpullers. Normal Topic Hot Topic (More than 15 replies) Very Hot Topic (More than 25 replies) Locked Topic Sticky Topic PollLeslie Spit July 23. Local Bait & Tackle. « on: September 14, 2023, 10:45:17 am ». Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » Lake Erie / Niagara (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Eastern lake erie. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » unreal « previous next. Connecting to my phone via bluetooth wasn't complicated but didn't work at first. But I thought also backed into their DNA is a very sensitive temperature control trigger. I found it in an old tackle box. I have replaced all my drags in my convectors and would run them over Coldwaters anytime. Did the solo trip yesterday to the Island and the screen light up with fish. The marina is surrounded by acres of parkland and trails, and close to beaches, restaurants and attractions. The package says it runs 10-20 feet. The boat's been serviced & ready for the water. SpoonPullers. The outboard pilot uses a $249. Jay has done an incredible job building and managing the site and its. 233 Merc outdrive with a 351 Ford motor. 1) Start off with the cannonball wire. « on: August 13, 2023, 04:10:47 pm ». I'm gonna bring the motors too them and they may change their minds when they see them. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Lfp June 10. Luxury Waterfront Cottages on beautiful WestLake, Wellington, Line capacity guidelines. It has brackets for downriggers but I am wondering if there is a specific track system for this boat?Re: big jon monitroll 900 user instructions - help please - google sucks. I picked up around 80 from a retired guy who fished out of port credit. Lower the rig down. 6/1. jpg (3141. LYMAN COLLECTION COLOR CHART. vecotors arent popular here, but over in the US they seem to be top dog not for sales but the ferrari of riggers if you will, asfar as performance goes, both scottys and vetors will work, not many can say they have seen vectors in person, as I mentioned they havent really made. Then you cover the sensor and connections with a non-conductive sealer and let it set. If interested please contact Jean-François Néron at [email protected] cabin,c/w porta potti. « on: March 10, 2009, 02:45:00 pm ». ??Located on one of the finest natural harbours on Lake Ontario, Port Whitby Marina is a 420-slip award-winning marina operated by the Town of Whitby with year round services. 1988 Springbok 19ft center console on a tandom trailer. I have replaced all my drags in my convectors and would run them over Coldwaters anytime. Generally speaking though, I run my spoons clean more so than adding the extra flash. Author Topic: Hey spoonpullers, 2010 predictions?? (Read 5292 times) yoda Guest; Hey spoonpullers, 2010 predictions?? « on: December 30, 2009, 03:41:00 pm » Just had a guy leave here and doing what we. « Reply #7 on: October 04, 2011, 12:33:00 pm ». com Forum ! For many years the site was run on the ProBoards site but it has gotten so big and was so full of excellent information we felt it deserved a dedicated home of it's own. e. 00. 9 hp kicker !! I had my 90 HP E- Tech on a 18 ft Starcraft since 2005. He also said they will be going back to painting on the ladderbacks again. Text me for photos. 5 kB, 4032x3024 - viewed 257 times. 0. Northports and stingers. 25" and the center boss is larger on one to the other. I wanted a fish ruler on the boat but did not want to put a sticker on the side or carry a bump board. in my 7 years of quinte "DECEMBER" fishing, the big baits have never produced. The 6" spinny with fly is great for coho and steelhead. I have a 2011 9. 453 Views. 11 | SMF. I picked up around 80 from a retired guy who fished out of port credit. Managed a couple small salmon 8-10lbs. « Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 06:03:35 pm ». Lake O has some wild currents some days but even on most days there is a current present. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Ashbridges May 19. . Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » For sale Simms; Jump to: SMF 2. « on: July 09, 2023, 07:52:37 am ». png (4933. Text for pictures. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » South Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » incident at bluffers on Saturday «. « on: August 24, 2023, 09:51:47 am ». 6/1. Tournament Results. It may just be the connector itself and not the switch. maybe its because we use mono and not wire. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Bluffers « previous next. Bennet trim tabs. Continue shopping. Too simple. For sale: 1989 Thundercraft Magnum "230 Fish". 20 Topics. Maitland Report Aug. Put on 65lb braid backing. 00. Sure, a 6hp single cylinder is a bit noisier, but it's lighter and cheaper than a 9. Drop your bottom spoon back and hook the line into your release. i have 5 walleye in the boat over 14lbs, and none were even caught on a reef runner. Welcome to the new Spoonpullers. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Humber Bay May 28. For example 134-149-156-177-179 and then drops back 179-156-149-134 (numbers are not always the. Can include brand new. July 12 13 14 I am not a charter my partner could not make it. Work in Markham for GTA pickup. 0. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » 10 inch boat trailer drums. then crank it back down hard. Lighthouse Rd, St Catharines, ON L2N 7P5. Hopefully tournament information will be easier to find and not get pushed down the board during busy times. 417 Views. 18 ft boat with 115 mercury 2. These past few years when we arrived at the park in September / October making 3 or 4 trips so as not to miss the fish we have seen none, none. Motor was rebuilt about 4 years ago. obo. Some other important notes: 1) The parking pay machine is up and running at the SCGFA launch ramp in Port Dalhousie. So I went to solidworks and drew the picture up below. « on: August 16, 2008, 10:00:00 pm ». Got a mixed bag of Lakers, kings, bows, cohosh and. Port Dalhousie Lighthouse Road St. Copper wire & dipsey wire don't like each other. 0. jpg (3678. Bronte update. Spray some lube on all the stainless bolts before using them! Stainless will gall (cold weld) them selves to the nut/bolt and you will twist and break them off if turning to fast (I found I couldn't ratchet them and had to do nice slow even rotations with an allen key! Its heavy and pushes his 1500 series dodge pretty hard, fuel usage depends on how fast he gets there and run distance but it is an awesome boat. « on: June 02, 2015, 10:06:58 pm ». 3 Replies. We fished from 100 to 200 FOW. 00. You cut off the old sensor, strip back the inside wire and twist the strands of the cable together. Boats launch into a safe harbor leading directly to Lake Ontario. Amundson SCX3 Moocher. 99. Thank you Spoonpullers! (Read 3720 times) alphaalpha Guest; My first king! Thank you Spoonpullers! « on: July 11, 2011, 12:46:00 am » Got out with my father-in-law on saturday out of Pickering. . « Reply #1 on: March 27, 2011, 08:36:00 pm ». 1,950 likes. headed straight out to 200' . Whether just getting started and gearing up for a new species or you are an experienced veteran looking for something to add to your tackle or boat these retailers are likely to have it. Fishing solo I culled 8 fish to get my 6, never saw so many small ones. When I trim down, it won't go and I can hear a clicking sound. in my 7 years of quinte "DECEMBER" fishing, the big baits have never produced. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » cannon rod holders « previous next. 99 to $149. They come with the new springs and screws to attach them. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Combos for sale « previous next. The board is exclusive to Scotty King of Kings Tournament Series. Perhaps some may not know the white chart is without rings on like i did for a while. . Hey Spooners: I have this Monitroll from another boat and doubt I'll use it. I came across a Buds Diver you tube video. They take up tons of the Bounce, out of your riggers in bigger waves, take lots of the shock out of your terminations, wire, gunnels, during hard stops and starts. BD06D9D9-3324-41AD-8D38-D67930721042. Spoonpullers » General » General Board (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Experience extending cannon ball release? Help. I'm running out of time & will have to move the boat soon. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Power Pole charge « previous next » Print; Pages: [1] Go Down. FOR SALE: 2x TICA USA Downrigger Fishing Rods. Motor was rebuilt about 4 years ago. North shore or west end. Let the rig down 10-15 feet, half hitch a rubber band around the line, take another leader with a snap on each end, hook the snap through the loop in the rubber band and around the line, and fling your second spoon into the water. They handle well and the flat bottom is nice to handle in the boat . Author Topic: Spoonpullers derby? (Read 3576 times) captjohn Guest; Spoonpullers derby? « on: January 15, 2009, 08:12:00 am » If 3/4 of the membrs put in just 20$ You could run a 500 a day derby for 2 months!!. Then 3 coats of Silver Aluminum Rust-Oleum paint. This is becuase my car blue tooth was taking priority over the smart troll. I picked up a Humminbird Helix 5 DI GPS and am having some issues. Asking 2250. d'oh me driving a boat. easy. 1989 Easyloader tandem bunktrailer. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » South Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Jordan June 1. An Inch at a Time You don’t often hear the statement “our lake is in great shape, the fishery is better than ever, our shoreline is cleaner, and the overall water quality is better”. More specifically for trolling Lake O. Spoonpullers » General » General Board (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Lund Sport Track Accessories . Hadnt noticed this in past years except this year. He liked my collection said Owensound is in high demand for them. Spoonpullers is Lake Ontario & Lake Erie's largest fishing community. Adjust to different mounting holes on the flasher adds more snap. 1-I use Chamberlain release. Spoonpullers is primarily a salmon and trout trolling and stream side membership. Re: Walker Downrigger parts. Powder coated black or silver. « on: July 24, 2023, 10:55:57 am ». I only remember 1 fish on the dipsy. Not sure what the hype is all about, but they haven't done sh!t for me over the years. 00. You cut off the old sensor, strip back the inside wire and twist the strands of the cable together. The Weekender is a little wet when the waves get to about three footers. Lake Nipissing Message Board. 0 Replies. Will you post the code or PM it to me if you have it. . 22. 24 Pounder; Posts: 148; Cannonballs « on: December 09, 2020, 07:43:39 pm » 2 brand new POW 16lb. . 00. It is well sheltered and has washroom facilities close to the ramp. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » big jon downriggers for sale. I tried Ararat and they just shook their heads. Scotty locking track mount. Savant now ownes Suttons spoons (paper thin). com is a Time on the Water Canada web site and home to Canada’s largest fishing community for Lake Ontario and Lake Erie’s Recreational, Tournament, Clubs. We set downriggers from 30' to 90', set dipseys from 150' to 200'. is it all done at the Service CanadaI have a new happy trolling plate. a Dipsy. Excalibur cross bow exomag. After 3 hours of use, the battery strength only fell to 99%. trolling bags. 12 pound cannonball weight-$60 16 pound POW Casting weight- $100 Both in excellent condition. Walker 6' planer board double reel mast. Continue reading →Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » For Sale; Jump to: SMF 2. I was surfing the web, checking out other forums and noticed alot of them have sticker you could buy. The intention was to change the site to new software but the software has some issues with registration. I trim all the way up and jog the switch and eventually it will catch and begin to trim down. We would set the ball where we marked the fish (45-80 ft) so it was not we were too deep that the fish were at the slider lures. Author Topic: Planerboard mast mount (Read 2529 times) joes13. They are not in the class of a Seaswirl or a Proline but for the money are a pretty good boat, and are made just outside of Owen Sound. slow trolling spoons. 250. $250 text if interested 905-410-0193Scott Makobe Canoe. works great when the fish hits it pops the clip off,setting the hook. It is intermittent. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » North Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Bronte « previous next. 6474568847. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » scanoe and motor « previous next. Works well. Also real nice to grab that snubber vs wire line when messing with weights. Spoonpullers » Salmon Fishing » Questions about Salmon Trolling? » Leadcore Questions » Spoon, fly, flasher, meat? What to use with leadcore?. Drive Pilot or Precision. 8 on top. July 11, 2012, 07:55:29 am. Sleeps 5 & hull is in excellent condition. Far better than Coldwater drags at a lower price point. E. Last post by King of Kings Tournament. com will be the front end of this site sometime shortly. We run them on occasion when we are looking for a disturbance. Kicker bracket for swim platform (how to?) A kicker is not just for speed control. Spoonpullers » General » General Board (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Fish Delivered !! Thank You from Spoonpullers. Big Jon Monitroll,2 Canon Mag 10 downriggers,Icom VHF radio, Lowrance LCX37c/w navionics card. i keep my cheaters/sliders short, 3-4 feet max and I have to bewards spin them when I am re-setting but well worth it!Was hearing reports of limits of cormorants taken on Long Point bay ? What is the regulation on Lake Ontario can we fish and hunt at the same time ?Spoonpullers » General » Tournaments » KOTL (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, get it wet, Bentauger) Child Boards. Advertisement; Sponsored Links. 6 lb bow, 45 over 150. I. 5 mph depending on your exact setup. Dipsy rods are built to stand up to dragging. 123 - setting on dipsy. Boat has sink, ice box & head. Boats started to show up, some using in-lines, don't know how they made out. 140 fow down 85 heading west green/blue spoon. We (3 boats) arrived in Cobourg June 26. LoggedLast of a classic in mint shape. Okuma 45 size reel has a capacity of 580 yards of 20lb test mono line. depending on speed with other business in the water, time of day and activity of the kings we throw out different leader lengths. Replacing Downrigger Cable? Anyone using a Shuttle Hawk? lubricating a big jon? Blue Scotty Snubbers ? Which Scotty Downrigger? what rod length and power for main rigger rod? Can someone explain what "Blow Back" is ?? Old school riggers, fibreglass booms. 59 kB, 4032x3024 - viewed 113 times. Login with username, password and session length Home; Forum Home; Recent Posts; Photos; Lake "O" Information. set your main line as always,drop the ball 10 feet clip the swivel over the main line (like u would a slider)fasten the offshore clip just above the swivel ,toss it in the waterand drop the ball to the desired depth. I have repaired it with some zip ties. Sold!! 20230609_125159. 3shakers, 1 rainbow and 1 decent laker way down. 84 kB, 4080x3060 - viewed 185 times. 647 460 4881 for inquires. 18-0550 It’s a rubber cap that covers the drain port in each manifold. « on: June 10, 2023, 02:44:19 pm ». Best price I can find is eBay 18 bucks each other 25 for shipping. June 29, 2023, 02:04:05 pm. As long as it doesn't hurt I might try them out. 5) and slower speeds shorten them. Make as many words as you can from the name ?SPOONPULLERS. When running into the rough stuff, very stable. Clipping any fin has been frowned on in the studies. 35 feet was magic from 6:30 to 8:30 am. Spoonpullers » Salmon Fishing » Electronic Set-up and Installation (Moderators: SkeinMachine, BigD, troutguy, Fish-awn) » Navionics updated Rice Lake. Who doesn't love a picture story? I went out for a little fishing expedition on Thursday but I was thinking it would be more of a boat ride because all of the cold water on the north shore. I mentioned about the "In" & "Out" arrows to him as well and he said HOPA is aware of the request. What is the average age? Logged I spend 250 days a year on the water and I still feel I'm missing Time on the Water. I spend 250 days a year on the water and I still feel I'm missing Time on the Water. Continue reading →Have 23 Northern King Spoons for sale. • 300 feet (10 colors) of leadcore runs at 37 feet. 00. « on: September 22, 2023, 12:31:20 am ». 11 | SMF. Spoonpullers » General » Lake Ontario Bait & Tackle-Electronics - Guides & Charters -Marine Services » Lake Ontario Bait & Tackle-Electronics - Guides & Charters (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, Bentauger)Brand new Big-Jon swivel base $150. Salmonid stalker. Ion control riggers use this theory. Most fish caught on reef runner (barbie), and Live target smelt. Re: Flea Flicker Substitute. Spoonpullers » Community Center » Buy & Sell (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » Assorted flashers with flies or meat heads. Re: Downrigger Boom Length and Mounting - Advice. What I mean is, that while fishing in three footers the last two seasons, I've had waves come over the bow, up the windshield, over the top and into my boat. Login with username, password and session length Home; Forum Home; Recent Posts; Photos; Lake "O" Information. Spoonpullers » Fishing Reports » South Shore Reports (Moderators: SkeinMachine, Glenn Anderson, troutguy, Bentauger) » PD June 29, 2023.